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APX ALARM of Provo, Utah is a Thief and a Liar.



October 2008: UPDATE: APX has solved this concern to my satisfaction. I don’t think I could recommend them to anybody, but I am personally OK with how things worked out. Thanks to all your comments and links to help bring this to a reasonable resolution.

I hope this blog post gets to the very top of the search engines for the terms “APX Alarm” or “APEX ALARM“. Please help? Furthermore, please remember that this is my blog, and not representative of any other entity.

apxIts TOO BAD that there are so many “APEX ALARM” companies in the country that none of them want to take ownership for the other APEX/APX’s underhanded dealings. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are all divisions of the same company, and they have become pros at the “name-and-blame game”. I do know, from local PR blogger Russ Page that APX knows how to spin a problem into something beneficial for themselves (see my comment here, and the other comments on Russ’ original blog post here)

Suffice it to say, I am referring below to the:

    APX ALARM SECURITY SOLUTIONS, INC. of Provo, Utah. Utah EID 6047238-0142, License: UT # 6093322-6501

More than a year ago, services were installed in my home to “protect” me and my assets from thievery, damage, or the always-intangible “violation of privacy”.

Turns out, after about 6 months of service payments, we discovered the service didn’t actually work, when one of the kids set off the alarm and we didn’t get it turned off before it was supposed to call 911 for us or to the monitoring service.

I called APEX ALARM, repeatedly, and demanded something fairly simple:

  • Fix my system
  • Credit my account the 6-months of payments I had made under the false impression the system works.

Apex Alarm told me they would check on doing that, and they’d get back to me.

  1. Four months went by, and I was greeted with a collection call in early December 2006 because we had “not paid our service”.
  2. On December 5th, 2006, I went to their office in the Riverwoods in Provo and sat in their waiting area for more than an hour waiting for “someone who could absolutely fix my problem once and for all” to come talk to me. Nobody did. I would have stayed all day long if I was willing to sacrifice my job for the matter.
  3. The next day, I sent a letter to APX Alarm requesting that they work with me on the matter. See a copy of the letter I sent, here.
  4. On January 17, 2007, I spoke to Brady, 888-346-9202 extension 2004, agent ID 5403, who explained to me that:
    1. They would credit my account the past-due amount from before my problem was discovered, but that “company policy for credits is that payment has to be in full first, then 4 months payment due $171.96.”
    2. My reply to him was to the effect that I would agree to that if I had a document signed by a company officer stating that if I paid the previous four months of past-due service, then they would indeed both (a) Fix my service and (b) backtrack and credit my account in full for all previous months of service from before I initially called to explain the problem.
    3. He told me he would have to get approval, and that person was out of the office, and we arranged a call the next day, Jan 18th 2007, wherein I was told that “the company” would not guarantee me in writing what Brady was promising me over the phone, but that if I trusted them, they would follow-through on their word. I replied that it didn’t make sense that they wouldn’t simply document what they promised to me, and I wanted Brady to try again, which he said he would do and get back to me.

Nothing was heard for months.

Now, a collection agency, Anderson, Crenshaw And Associates, full of loudmouths and bullys, which calls from the number 866-400-3550 (See Rip-Off Report “Anderson, Crenshaw And Associates rude, abnoxious, unhelpful idiots, ripoff Dallas Texas“), calls me regularly demanding payment for services I have never received. I am clearly not the only one who feels this way about them. In fact, one of the earlier agents who verbally belittled me over the phone claimed that his company, Anderson, Crenshaw And Associates, simply buys debts from companies like APX Alarm and chases down payment like bulldogs hoping to get something out of people like me. They, too, don’t really care. They just want the money.

My phone call with Anderson, Crenshaw And Associates just now ended like this:

    Me: I have been trying to ask APX Alarm to help me with this.
    Them: They don’t want to help you. You’re in default.
    Me: What am I in default of? They haven’t provided me any service?
    Them: It doesn’t matter. You signed a contract saying you would pay the bill no matter if your service worked or not.
    Me: “Would you sign a contract like that?”
    Them: No way. “There is no way in hell I would ever sign a contract like that.”
    Me: Then why do you think I should pay it?
    Them: Because you signed the contract.

    Before the call was over, I was threatened with a lawsuit and, from what I understand from the person I talked to, he said Apx Alarm was going to try and TAKE MY HOUSE if I didn’t pay up. What!!?

Well, I related to the collection agent, who I am sure has a beautiful, modest home and lives a simple, good value-driven American life, that I had previously asked Apex Alarm for help, and they said they would.

In all my dealings with this matter, I have related that I:

  • Am COMPLETELY WILLING to pay the absolute complete amount for any and all service actually provided.
  • And that I am waiting for APEX ALARM to come through on what they promised to ME (a) to provide service and (b) to fix the problem I had with NO service, plus credit my account for time lost in having no service performed.

The horrific part of the story is that I did get myself into one of the most litigious and vicious contracts I have EVER SEEN. The simple facts of the matter is that APEX ALARM has no reason to care about me, my needs, me as a customer or me as a human being (which, if you miss the irony here, is odd because their whole sales pitch is that I should use their service to protect things I value in life)

They just want my money.

Other than the required “did you get setup” calls that were made on day one or right after that, I have never received a “how’s it going” call or a “we appreciate your business” postcard or a “we did a check on your property and (gosh) we noticed we’ve been billing you for nothing at all, so we’d like to credit you back a month of service and come fix your system!” call.

Nope.

    I didn’t even receive a call from them when I should have! (when my alarm went off! That’s how I found out it was broken)

If you’re still reading, the take away here is that:

  • Apx Alarm’s sales agents were invited into my home by my wife (WHILE I WAS NOT HOME) who begged for her help, and she was sold on their charming manner and promise to install a bunch of free services and gadgets for us.
    • They said they were “in trouble” if the didn’t get one more unit installed that very night, and that they might lose their jobs.
    • They told us they were looking for someone to give a deal to, so that others in the area would see them as a good company (they gave us a free sign for our yard — yay).
    • They told us there was “a lot of stuff in the contract” but it all really meant that APX would take care of us, and that anything that ever went wrong, they (the sales guys) would personally fix it for us.
      • Yeah, I know what you’re thinking. I didn’t really believe them either, but looking back it was obviously part of their tactic to help me not worry about it, sign the dotted line, and worry about the “fine print” later.
  • As a rule, I never, ever, ever buy anything door-to-door (except certain well-known cookies) and would NOT have done this, other than that my wife was so impressed with the service and convinced me it was OK.
  • I know SOMEONE at APX ALARM SECURITY SOLUTIONS received my request to fix my problem.
  • SOMEONE at APX (maybe the same person or someone else) actively or passively decided NOT TO respond to my request and, instead, put my account into default.
  • From the moment the sales guys left my door, I have felt abandoned and finally now abused by APX ALARM SECURITY SOLUTIONS

The summary of this is clear: I am asking APX to violate the contract I (was led to/convinced to) signed. Yes. They don’t legally HAVE TO do anything about it.

But do they morally have an obligation to??

Today as I write this, I am angry and befuddled knowing that my SECURITY ALARM COMPANY has resorted to bullying collection agencies and underhanded, litigious contracts to make money, and the thread of lawsuit and loss of personal property. The reason I turned to them is to PROTECT myself from unseen and unknown dangerous predators who would want to violate my privacy, my lifestyle, and encroach upon my personal property and assets.

YOU, Apex Alarm, are the greatest THREAT to that very security you pretended to care about.

Dear APX ALARM. I doubt you really care about all this, but this blog post will stay here until this matter is resolved. Your legal agreements may be legally binding, but I believe that Google, and BASIC BUSINESS ETHICS will prove more powerful.

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    My brother is in upper management at Apx Alarm. I made him aware of your situation, Robert, and he immediately responded by talking to Josh Houser, the executive over customer service. Josh responded that he has dealt with you, Robert, personally and has not been able to make you happy after his efforts at doing so...I don't know "what" efforts were put forward by Josh so that was ambiguous and could be interpreted that Josh has done nothing and so you're not happy or he's done something and you're still not happy. I've always gone to the Better Business Bureau immediately if ever there has been a customer service issue. I've never been disappointed in going the BBB route as all sides--both you and the business--can be guaranteed a fair mediation. I've walked away with a free laptop from CompUSA and a whole CD of original family portraits by a top-notch photography studio, as a result. Another approach would go the FTC route. If there is truly something illegal going on on Apx's side, they would be investigated.

    My business partner is personal friends with Bob Garfield (www.comcastmustdie.com), who is personal friends with Ralph Nader...Ralph and Bob are serious consumer advocates so I would recommend contacting Bob at his website (cited previously) if the BBB or FTC route does not help. My guess is if you have significant documentation the BBB will be able to resolve this issue for all concerned.

    To be fair, from the Apx side you can view a positive report about their customer service by going to the following:
    Story about APX on local NBC Channel.
    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=4397436 <http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=43...>

    Story about APX from the local paper
    http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/282251/17/
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    @Tami, thanks for the comment. I wish you could see the other 76 comments on this post that Disqus is hiding somehow :(.

    FWIW, I talked with Josh (he contacted me) and he was able to take care of everything a self-respecting company would... he listened to me, realized there were some problems (maybe on both our faults) and agreed that it would be best for us to part ways and make a clean break. APX *has* resolved my problem to enough satisfaction. I would never do business with them, nor would I recommend them to anybody, but I am personally OK with how things worked out.

    I know I *could* go through all the hassle of contacting the FTC and the BBB and all those other things, but that was not my point in posting this. The *point* was that, when something goes wrong with a company's service, it should be simple to get it fixed or canceled. By very definition, having to contact a federal or non-profit agency to get a dispute resolved with a company is TOO MUCH WORK that I don't have time for.

    And, about the hurricane work they did, that's great. I don't have a problem with the PEOPLE at APX... its their incredibly litigious contract, their rediculously long contract-period, and the pit-bulls they contract out to when accounts go sour.

    Like I said when I posted the blog: "I am angry... knowing that my SECURITY ALARM COMPANY has resorted to bullying collection agencies and underhanded, litigious contracts to make money, and the thread of lawsuit and loss of personal property. The reason I turned to them is to PROTECT myself ... [but] YOU, Apex Alarm, are the greatest THREAT to that very security you pretended to care about."
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    I know how you feel I just got a call from Anderson, Crenshaw & Assoc. They too have threatened with a civil lawsuit ...
    I explained to the guy that, we were renting the house we were in and they gave me a 30 day notice due to the reason of them selling the house ok so where did that leave me? I had to find a place and like right away! He did not care, " Unfortunately they don't care of your situation you broke your contract and they want thier payment you still owe over $1000.00 in the contract well if they take me to court so be it I feel real bad cause I cant not do anything about it but I do feel it now I will never ever recommend APEX Alarm's to no one I will make sure it gets around even if I have to go around knocking on doors.......MDR
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    HI I CAN RELATE, I WILL NEVER, EVER EVER, EVER REFERR APX TO ANYONE. THEY CAME TO MY HOME LATE ONE NIGHT PRETENDING THEY WERE ADT. TELLING ME THEY WERE HERE TO UP GRADE MY SYSTEM(KEY PAD) HAD ALL MY INFORMATION, AND CHANGED MY SERVICE OVER TO APX. BECAUSE IT WAS DAYS LATER WHEN I FOUND OUT WHAT THEY DID I WAS TOLD THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE CONTACT THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WAS A CONTACT WHICH WAS MADE OUT TO ME TO BE A WORK ORDER FORM SHOWING THEY WERE HERE, WAS PAST THE DATE TO DECLINE THERE SERVICES. THEY ARE LIARS, RUDE WITH NO POINT TO HELP NO ONE BUT THEMSELVES. APX COMING INTO MY FAMILY WAS THE WORST THING TO EVERY HAPPEN TO US. THEY TOLD ME IF I DON'T WANT THERE SERVICE THEN I SHOULD SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE. NOW THE DEVILS ARE CALLING MY HOUSE OVER ERRORS THEY MADE. PLEASE IS THERE SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP ME...
 

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